If you get a chance this post is definitely worth reading – Lupa has done a great job with this essay. I definitely agree on a few things.
– I’ve recently overcome the need to be right all the time and I didn’t even know that’s what I was doing! I must admit it took some serious self reflection to realise that the reason why I felt too nervous to ask questions or blog about my experiences was because I was scared of being wrong. How will I grow though?! I talked myself through it by writing in my journal. There is nothing wrong with being wrong – it’s all experience and it will help you grow.
– I’ve never had problems with accepting people for their different beliefs but one of my friends and I always get into arguments about why I believe in a spirit. Lupa paints the perfect picture to represent him with the dog tied to a dog house. While I accept that he just doesn’t agree with me (but still think it’s ludicrous. Can’t he feel it inside of him?) he’s just not happy with agreeing to disagree. He’s constantly trying to make me see that I’m wrong and that it’s cognitive dissonance that’s making me believe it. So much so that we haven’t even got past the ‘spirit’ thing – there would be so many ideas to discuss if he could just get past that.
– And here we are – at the point of rightness or wrongness again. In this instance there is no such thing. How can you be wrong or right when it comes to experience? It’s important to keep an open mind and heart especially on this subject. As Lupa states “There is absolutely no incontrovertible proof that any religious belief is more objectively and measurably true than any other, and the number of people who adhere to it does not increase its truth.”
– On the subject of potential fundamentalism – I was not raised in a strictly Christian or Catholic household and my parents are very accepting of everything and everyone so I have no first hand experience of strict religious views. I have, however, definitely done my fair share of reading. It’s a good point that Lupa is raising because once these things get momentum they’re hard to stop.
A caveat to start with: No matter how well a writer writes something, inevitably someone will misinterpret what they were trying to say. Such is the limitation of language. In that spirit, allow me to make one thing very, very clear before this essay even starts: I am not equating hard polytheism with religious fundamentalism. I am concerned that because of certain patterns I have seen among some, not all, hard polytheists, that this may, not necessarily will, in the future give rise to a form of pagan religious fundamentalism. Additionally, the “You’re wrong, I’m right” attitude that I’m observing is not limited to debates regarding polytheism, but other areas of paganism as well, and any of these could also give rise to a form of fundamentalism given the right circumstances. Polytheism happens to be the topic of the moment which finally gave me a chance to voice…
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“Pagan Fundamentalism” is a value laden term with extreme negative connotations for common people. I have documented in the below linked article how results of existing Pagan scholarship are already being misrepresented on Christian blogs with a distinctively negative agenda towards Paganism. I am very concerned that the present discussions about Pagan Fundamentalism will be used against Pagans in the same manner. See my article on this important issue entitled:
“Pagan Scholarship and anti-Pagan Propaganda” at
I thank you for your comment and your blog post was an interesting read. I think Christians (not all Christian’s mind you!) will always find something to ‘use against us’ to illegitimise our spirituality. I think the original post by Lupa was mostly aimed towards others in the Pagan community. We shouldn’t be disagreeing amongst ourselves!
Could you give me a link please to the original post by Lupa. Thanks for answering by the way.